Did dobby help harry in cos. He figured his own son was safe because he was a pureblood.

Did dobby help harry in cos Dobby must have heard Draco complaining about Potter and his friends Weasley and Granger. I'm 100% that Filch knew that Tom was a former student cause in the same book he forced Ron to clean the Annual Award that Tom won 50 years ago for "helping" Hogwarts to find the guy who opened the Chamber of Secret back then. The stakes are too high. , and in the aftermath we see Harry begging Hermione to give him anything that could save Dobby, but Hermione standing still. I've been waiting for that scene to come up, but then Harry freed Dobby, and I don't think he knew that up until the 5th year, when Harry properly started connecting with Voldemort's mind. I’m indifferent to book Dobby save for CoS. intact Dobby wouldn’t be freed at the end of the year meaning he wouldn’t be at Hogwarts or care enough about Harry to help in GOF. All important. house elf wearing 10 hats stacked on top of each other and 5 pairs of mis-matched socks doing everything he can to help Harry. In the movie, however, Malfoy is handed the book, and not really even looking at it, hands it to Dobby to hold. He risked everything to do the right thing. In the books this is covered in the conversation with Harry and Dumbledore in his office after Harry smashes Dumbledore things. Their lives were also turned upside down due to By blocking the entrance to Platform 9 3/4, Dobby the House Elf did save Harry Potter's life! I would not say that the point of Dobby's efforts was to set up the car to save them from the Harry reveals that he is a Parslemouth in the dueling scene in CoS. Harry had the shard of the mirror and Aberforth had the rest of the mirror and could see Harry ask for help so he sent Dobby to help cause Dobby has a different kind of magic and could pop into where Harry was. Presumably Dobby overheard Lucius talking about his plan to get rid of the incriminating diary & frame Mr. He mentions that the malfoys don't care about what he does to punish himself and actually encourages him to do double punishments, so there is definitely a possibility that dobby did have to iron his hands every day. I really loved Dobby at the end; but at first he infuriated me. Dobby tries to prevent Harry from going to school because dark deeds are planned - but what does he know that specifically relates to Welcome to r/HarryPotter, the place where fans from around the world can meet and discuss everything in the Harry Potter universe! Be sorted, earn house points, take classes with our fine Hogwarts staff, debate which actor portrayed Dumbledore the best, and finally get some closure for your Post-Potter Depression. Dobby was extremely loyal to Harry after he freed the house-elf years prior in the Harry Potter series. I've tried googling it, and it definitely was a line at one point. But in the end I loved Dobby. But, Dobby did SO much for harry in every single way possible and Harry was not that thankful. This passage indicates dobby made that spell and that spell only to trigger an alert specific to harry. So here are the facts on Harry's two instances of getting in trouble for using underage magic. Dobby wants to help Harry Potter because he brought about the downfall of Voldemort and things were much worse for his kind under Voldemort and largely better (for his In CoS, Dobby was owned by and worked for the Malfroys, a dark wizard family, who despised Dumbledore due to his muggle loving ways. Posted by u/AP_The_Legend - No votes and 7 comments To the second question: Dobby went on his own to see Harry in CoS. None of that mattered to Dobby, however, because he got to join Harry in battle - as an equal. That was all he ever wanted. And then he blocked the platform at kings cross and hit Harry with the bludger. we know that dobby went to shell cottage because ron told him to, but we also learn that shell cottage is under the fidelius charm and bill is the secret keeper. Writing, and Literature Religion and Spirituality Science Tabletop Games Technology Travel Popular Posts Help Center I've always wandered how Dobby even knew where Harry lived. Dobby does not die in Book 6, he dies in Book 7 while helping Harry, Ron and Hermione escape from Malfoy Manor where they were held captive for a short while and Hermione was tortured by Bellatrix Lestrange. Possibility 2: Malfoys surely knew Weasleys. E. Dobby is unusually independent and brave for a house elf, but what he did for Harry goes against the entire nature of a house elf. Dumbledore realized it (the diary) was a Horcrux when Harry handed it to him in CoS because of how Harry described what happened in the Chamber to him. As if Harry didn't have enough trouble going on. And since Harry is our window into that world, it’s a crushing loss to us. Dobby also wasn't even standing in front of Harry at the time Lucius drew his wand and started to very Welcome to r/HarryPotter, the place where fans from around the world can meet and discuss everything in the Harry Potter universe! Be sorted, earn house points, take classes with our fine Hogwarts staff, debate which actor portrayed Dumbledore the best, and finally get some closure for your Post-Potter Depression. He quite literally cannot betray the family in any way unless he is set free, so he could not betray them by telling Harry of the plan they had put into action. Dobby gave Harry the Gillyweed in book 4, which allowed him to participate in the 2nd task. Without S. He didn’t do it because he thought it would win him friends or freedom. Did he know the diary was that evil to cause the events of COS? Help me out please. A subreddit for the FOX TV series Gotham; Bruce Wayne becomes an orphan when his billionaire parents Thomas and Martha Wayne are murdered - James Gordon must navigate the seedy underbelly of Gotham's justice system while Welcome to r/HarryPotter, the place where fans from around the world can meet and discuss everything in the Harry Potter universe! Be sorted, earn house points, debate which actor portrayed Dumbledore the best and finally get some closure for your Post-Potter Depression. ’ Lucius Malfoy stood frozen, staring at the elf. Malloy opens it, notices the wet sock from Harry, and promptly tosses it without a care in world. It was Bellatrix who killed Dobby, she tried to kill Harry but she hit Dobby by throwing a dagger at him when he was apparating the three out of Yes he did. Set against the tech boom of the 1980's the show follows a cunning salesman, an engineer and a programming prodigy as they attempt to reverse engineer the IBM PC and change the face of the industry forever. Malfoy was thrown backward. In CoS, Dobby tries to prevent Harry from going to Hogwarts by levitating a cake and dropping it on Vernon’s boss’s head which leads to Harry Welcome to r/HarryPotter, the place where fans from around the world can meet and discuss everything in the Harry Potter universe! Be sorted, earn house points, take classes with our fine Hogwarts staff, debate which actor portrayed Dumbledore the best, and finally get some closure for your Post-Potter Depression. When Dobby dies, it is a crushing loss to Harry. A) the ministry did not know the difference between Dobby doing magic at Harry's residence and Harry actually doing magic. The heartwrenching sacrifice Dobby made to save Harry solidified his heroism and loyalty. Dobby's methods to save Harry were unconventional but he feels nothing is more important than keeping Harry alive. Dobby, lunges in the air, and intercepts the sock, which frees him. It always seemed to me that Dumbledore made a startling conclusion in a short amount of time when he Dobby defied House Elf rules to protect Harry, often at great personal risk. He knew about Mr. All for the same reasons. ” Currently, i think the common idea is the ministry couldnt tell who casted it, only where it was cast. ) was taken out to really cut down on movie time. Apparently, it was the first spell the Harry has a connection to Dobby that stretches books. They knew it was a sacrifice for Dobby to help them and one Harry felt immense guilt for after the fact. He is good, he is kind, and he helps Harry stay anchored to his own humanity when all the horrible stuff happens. "you shall not harm harry potter" Dobby (CoS). Dobby made a lot of assumptions, some of which were wrong. This is about character dobby from harry potter series who was a free elf and will remain in This is about character dobby from harry potter series who was a free elf and will remain in our hearts "Why did Dobby cheat his master?" Because Proletariat has Nothing To Lose But Their Chains (Karl Marx (c)). Does anybody know how Dobby knows Harry is in danger from the Chamber? This implies that at least someone in the Malfoy mansion was aware that the diary contained a memory (Tom Riddle) Dobby views Harry as the person who brought down the dark lord. He talks about how poorly house elves were treated under lord Voldemort and doesn’t want anything bad to happen to Harry Potter. Everyone says it's cos he's not very smart and that's probably true. What I'm getting at is that dobby died in the most muggle way in the entire series, being killed by a knife Dobby isn’t the smartest and did almost kill Harry for sure but he has such a good heart and really the sacrifices he made for others just to have hope are so selfless! I feel like his bravery is so passed over. W is all about improving the lives of house elves, so I feel like Hermione would want to know that she was inadvertently making Dobby’s life harder since none of the other house elves wanted to clean the Gryffindor common room anymore. " But, in the version on HBO Max, the second part of those lines is completely gone. he wasn’t expecting harry to come in at that moment and wouldn’t have done it in harry’s presence on purpose Posted by u/WisestAirBender - No votes and 6 comments “Then Dobby must do it, sir, for Harry Potter’s own good. He didn’t necessarily expect Harry to be a better person when he first decided to help him. Posted by u/Icycold157 - 105 votes and 22 comments As I'm currently listening to the audio books all over again (after countless times of reading the books and watching the movies) I realised that I never understood how Dobby knew that something would happen to Harry in CoS and Harry needed to be protected? I do know that Lucius secretly gave the diary to Ginny. To bring dobby along as a house elf to do their bidding is so vastly different than Aberforth seeing they were in danger and sending Dobby to help them one time. and house elf controversies being brought up, it was hard to put Dobby into Hogwarts to fill those roles. Does it seem to anyone else that the way dobby died was; for lack of a better term the most "gruesome" or "realistic" death in the book. Related Topics Harry Potter Harry Potter (book series Every time I watch CoS, I’m stunned that Lucius was actually about to murder Harry in the middle of Hogwarts for freeing Dobby I mean, since his action specifically leads to Dobby defending Harry, it's heavily implied that he ‘Master has given Dobby a sock,’ said the elf in wonderment. Harry didn’t even originally want Hermione and Ron involved in this. House Elf magic is woefully understudied. In CoS, our first meeting with Dobby, he's scared, enslaved, and miserable, doing everything to can to help Harry (albeit going about it wrong, IMO) and punishing himself for it. A lot of Dobby's story of working at Hogwarts (as well as S. Even spying on Malfoy for weeks without breaks and warning the DA that answer a: the movies don’t care about the characterizations and the rules in the books answer b: he isn’t allowed to do that at malfoy manor and just wanted to have some fun and be silly. But we do know that some of their magic will be detected when performed around young wizards and presumed to be known spells. If I remember correctly in the books In CoS Dobby performs the hover charm but Harry gets the blame for it, implying the trace doesn't detect the person doing the magic but the area in which it's done? But then in the beginning of OoTP when Moody et al come to get Harry and take him to headquarters Tonks uses magic to pack his trunk and Moody uses a disillusionment charm on him etc. Edit: I’m stupid and forgot to mention: This is about the movies. Dobby said it didn't. By Dobby appears in Harry’s bedroom and tells Harry that his life will be in danger if he returns to Hogwarts for his second year. Animals and Pets Anime Art Cars and Motor Vehicles Crafts and DIY Culture, Race, and Ethnicity Ethics and Philosophy Fashion Food and Drink History Hobbies Law Learning and Education Military Movies Music Place Podcasts and Streamers Politics Programming Reading, Writing, and Literature Religion and Spirituality Science Tabletop Games The prison was in the Malfoy's basement. His intentions may have been good in the grand scheme of things, but honestly Dobby had fuck all empathy or regard for the shit Harry was going through at home or that how much Hogwarts and his friends meant to him. And what Dark Wizards want is to destroy Harry Potter. *Halt and Catch Fire* is AMC's latest prestige drama. and announced that he was going to help protect his school. Scabbers, while believed to be his own character, was essentially Peter Pettigrew, just in disguise, while only a small part of Voldemort’s soul was in Harry (1/9th or less, since he made 7 horcruxes intentionally, plus the part that remained with him, then Welcome to r/HarryPotter, the place where fans from around the world can meet and discuss everything in the Harry Potter universe! Be sorted, earn house points, debate which actor portrayed Dumbledore the best and finally get some closure for your Post-Potter Depression. No, he was clearly aiming at Harry. Reply reply Listening to CoS on audible and noticed stuff about what Dobby tells Harry in his bedroom. There is no indication that has anything to do with it. I feel bad for Kreacher but he wasn’t as brave and selfless as Dobby. I would imagine that it’s the same with Ginny in CoS. All of the things about Dobby being heroic, innocent, about sacrificing himself, all true. Hate him across the board in the movies. Everything Dobby does in CoS is specifically related to trying to make sure Harry is as far away from the Chamber as possible, as he knows from overhearing Lucius Malfoy that the dark lord is involved, and that last time it opened someone died. Book 7 was the realization of the character, it was set up from book 2. So, when Harry begged for help, how did he know to send a House-Elf? How did he know that Malfoy Manor had anti-apparation set up? Aberforth might have asked Dobby if he could help (and we all know Dobby would right away knowing Harry is in danger) and Dobby might have volunteered the information than he could Apparate in because House-Elf Welcome to r/HarryPotter, the place where fans from around the world can meet and discuss everything in the Harry Potter universe! Be sorted, earn house points, debate which actor portrayed Dumbledore the best and finally get some closure for your Post-Potter Depression. And of course, they wouldn't try to keep it a secret from Dobby, because in their eyes he was nothing more than filth. If Harry hadn’t participated, would that have left him disqualified from the tournament? I don’t know. Dobby could not tell Harry what the dairy was or what kind of havoc it would cause because he was sworn the Malfoy family. I remember so clearly Dobby saying to Harry in one of the earlier movies "Dobby never meant to kill Harry Potter, only maim, or seriously injure". At the end of Philosopher’s Stone, Dumbledore tells Harry that no one knows for sure what happened during Harry’s adventures so, naturally, the entire castle knew. Presumably the goal of the Chamber was just to kill all the muggle-borns, so the plan would be to open it for a year or two and then shut it once all the muggle-borns are gone so those "worthy" according to Slytherin could study magic. " - Ch 18, Dobby's Reward, CoS I'd also venture to say that when Dobby heard where his master waa going he purposely tried to be taken along, perhaps knowing his hero Harry Potter might need his "help" again. As much as Dobby grated on my nerves in this book, I felt terribly bad for him, I wanted to hug him and free him, because that is what he wanted more than anything. Malfoy wanting to open the Chamber that year and didn't want Harry to be harmed, knowing he was the only hope for the wizarding world against Voldemort and his followers. Yeah, Dobby actually made Lucius rolled away down the stairs so maybe there the diary fell and later Albus found it on the floor. Harry had fallen asleep in the library, where he was If Dobby was doing it all, Harry wouldn’t have needed to spin on the spot and think of their destination - but he does, because he’s the one apparating them. Dobby said that it was because before Voldemort's name became feared, he could be named freely. Thought: In CoS, if had Harry lied to Dobby about not going to go back to Hogwarts and then still went, it wouldn't have changed any of the narrative. The clothes thing is just a custom. Aberforth when Harry used the mirror to call for help. Harry is warned by a house elf that Dumbledore may already know, connected with a Voldy follower. Welcome to r/HarryPotter, the place where fans from around the world can meet and discuss everything in the Harry Potter universe! Be sorted, earn house points, debate which actor portrayed Dumbledore the best and finally get some closure for your Post-Potter Depression. At the end of the book, Harry asked Dobby early why he'd said it had nothing to do with Voldemort. In book 7 he finally does help Harry but ends up hurting/sacrificing himself. Why did Harry not tell Hermione that Dobby was the only one cleaning the Gryffindor common room? Question S. 1,006 likes. And, he only became aware of horcruxes after the diary was presented to him. Dobby apparated the trio out and got hit by the knife Bellatrix threw at them. he doesn’t respect a muggle house like he does his wizard family’s house. Dobby only meant to maim, or seriously injure. Before then it seems like he was confined to the townhouse. I can’t put a finger on why though. Dobby using a Hover Charm in CoS. Animals and Pets Anime Art Cars and Motor Vehicles Crafts and DIY Culture, Race, and Ethnicity Ethics and Philosophy Fashion Food and Drink History Hobbies Law Learning and Education Military Movies Music Place Podcasts and Streamers Politics Programming Reading, Writing, and Literature Religion and Spirituality Science Tabletop Games Dobby kept trying to beat himself up for vaguely warning Harry to stay away, and that wasn't anywhere close to being as much of a betrayal as telling Dumbledore about the book. true. Welcome to r/HarryPotter, the place where fans from around the world can meet and discuss everything in the Harry Potter universe! Be sorted, earn house points, take classes with our fine Hogwarts staff, debate which actor portrayed Dumbledore the best, and finally get some closure for your Post-Potter Depression. “Dobby — no — HELP!” Harry bellowed toward the cottage, toward the people moving there. Dobby could have gone to the Burrow and collected information about Harry. ‘Master threw it, and Dobby caught it, and Dobby – Dobby is free. If you mean when things were So, when Harry begged for help, how did he know to send specifically Dobby? Why did he pick Dobby and not another house-elf? I can't recall a single evidence that anyone outside the Trio and Albus knew about Harry's relationship with Dobby; or that he used to serve Malfoys and would thus have an advantage. Harry starts hearing things in the walls. Am currently reading Order of the Phoenix. It didn't seem like common wizard knowledge at the time. he knows there is great danger at the school he clearly is light aligned despite living in a death eaters house, as he speaks highly of Albus and Harry. Dobby came back to the Malfoy manor after apparating others to the shell cottage, then came back for Harry, Ron and Hermione. Harry at the end of CoS: "Don't ever try to save my life again. P. ‘What did you say?’ ‘Dobby has got a sock,’ said Dobby in disbelief. I’ll keep with canon and assume this is the last thing Dobby would do for Harry. Another aspect as much as Harry wanted to preserve himself in the situation, I really think part of him didn't want to lie to Dobby who was obviously very Posted by u/HeSheeWumbo - No votes and 19 comments Did you know that Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets sparked a bizarre controversy involving Dobby and a world leader? Some fans noticed Dobby's resembl While dobby is in Harry's room he says a lot of things. Can Dobby see the future? Was there another group of bad things that were supposed to happen instead? Dobby is just the purest fictional character to ever exist. Harry asked Dobby early if this had anything to do with Voldemort. He figured his own son was safe because he was a pureblood. At the end of the CoS movie, after Harry frees Dobby, Lucius gets angry at Harry and begins to raise his wand He begins to say “Avada K-“ before Dobby stops him This isn’t in the books, but the reason is quite silly. Let's not forget he works for the Malfoys and knows there's a plot to kill Harry Potter. In Hollows, by Aberforth's order, dobby goes to Malfoy manner to save life's of harry and friends, ultimate cause of his death. it looks like In wizarding world breaking any promise might have some serious consequences. Rumors made their way Okay it’s a street off of diagon alley, but that’s not really relevant to my point I think. In deathly hallows, the scene where they were all escaping from Malfoy manor with Dobby’s help, and bellatrix throws a knife as they were disapparating, as they get to the cottage where Bill and Fleur were staying in, Harry discovers dobby was stabbed (I’ve always wondered why the knife didn’t get to the goblin instead, anyways) He’s frantically trying to save the little elf and looks There's the possibility that Dobby knew house elves who worked at Hogwarts, who overheard where Harry lived from Dumbledore. One example could be that Dobby painted a picture of harry for him for Christmas and harry's first thought was that it was ugly. At the beginning of COS, when Lucius plants the Diary; Voldemort had gone back into hiding after losing his only current servant (Quirrell). Dobby was NOT on the side of his master - he was a "freedom minded" house-elf, didn't like that house-elves were subjugated to wizards (as evidenced by his post-freeing thoughts, speech and behavior); didn't like Dark wizards, and knew that DE's Welcome to r/HarryPotter, the place where fans from around the world can meet and discuss everything in the Harry Potter universe! Be sorted, earn house points, debate which actor portrayed Dumbledore the best and finally get some closure for your Post-Potter Depression. They were sent Dobby, they didn't choose to include him. But also what others said - as a house elf, Dobby is not constrained by many of the same laws that wizards are. ’ ‘What’s that?’ spat Mr Malfoy. Harry not only saved Dobby's life, but gave him one of his own. I'm not sure he'd have been physically able to do that. He has come full circle. That may have something to do with it. He rejected Lupin getting involved. Then he lunged I always did wonder about that! The character Lucius would never ever dare to try and kill Harry at Hogwarts (though the film was created before GoF came out and all Jason Isaacs really knew was that Lucius was definitely not a friend of When Dobby comes to see Harry at the start of the CoS, he says he had heard Harry had faced Voldemort the previous year. A psychiatrist forcibly restraining and sedating a manic patient who wants to hurl himself off a high ledge (because he thinks he can fly like Superman) is still trying to help the patient (by keeping him alive) even though the patient may disagree in his current (manic) ”“Got a sock,” said Dobby in disbelief. Dobby is trying to stop Harry from going back to Hogwarts, telling him that bad things are going to happen there. Also, doesn’t that sound The amount of trouble he stirred up for Harry in the Chamber of Secrets, WHAT THE FUCK. When Harry's life was truly in danger, Dobby stepped in; he knew the stakes, and what it would mean to fail. It was when he came back in GoF and began his redemption arc that people started liking him. They saw the determination When Harry is in the infirmary regrowing his bones and Dobby shows up, I distinctly recall him having a line that said, "Dobby never meant to kill. Harry did not want anyone to put themselves in danger over him. Dobby only knew to get the gillyweed to Harry because Barty Crouch Junior engineered it by staging a conversation for Dobby to overhear. But I hate dobby the most. r/harrypotter In HP CoS Dobby approached Harry at the Dursleys, trying to keep him away from Hogwarts. Even if Hufflepuff brought a bunch of House Elves to Hogwarts that doesn’t mean they don’t have a monetary value in wizarding society where only the oldest richest institutions and well-to-do pureblood families like the Crouches and Malfoys could afford them. the knowledge that Dobby has. They then escape upstairs, Harry disarms Draco's wand (which I think is important for elder wand purposes later iirc), the get hermoine, Dobby helps them escape but gets a knife in the chest from Bellatrix just before the dissapparate There's another post about this, but it's archived. Weasley, likely to Narcissa. At the end of Goblet, Voldemort scolds Lucius for not trying to find him and help him regain power; and speaks to him as if they haven't spoken in years. The hand jerk that Harry feels is not Dobby trying to take charge, like Harry thinks, but Dobby jerking in pain because the knife had fully plunged into his chest. John Kearns explains this inconsistency with the idea that Lucius Malfoy was using Dobby so much of Dobby's actions were within his orders from Malfoy. Question about Dobby in CoS . Reply reply Top 1% Rank by size Ignoring the elf bobbing apologetically around his ankles, he fixed his cold eyes upon Dumbledore. That's how Dobby knew. Also, Dobby did know better than Harry in CoS as he knew of Malfoy's plans and the danger he was putting the entire school into with those plans. To be fair, Dobby seemed like a pyscho, I see Harry not wanting to play games with an unhinged house-elf, and decided the best course of action is to be straight about his intentions. ‘Master gave it to Dobby. Given that Percy wasn't really a character in the movies, and Penelope disappears from the books after POA (Hermione pretends to be Penelope in DH, but she doesn't appear and isn't referenced again), surely expecting her to make an appearance after the COS movie isn't realistic? Just want to start saying that I do know that Harry LOVED Dobby and did appreciate him. " And what did Dobby do in Deathly Hallows? He saved Harry's life, and paid the ultimate price. If Dobby spent the entirety of CoS living with Harry and constantly bumbling about saying, "Doh, did Dobby do that?" Then he probably would've been much harder to like later on. Repay the service they gave in life by manually digging a grave for them in death, sweat for them as they have for you. . (Where he almost died as a kid) trying as hard as he can to follow Dumbledore's orders and help harry. So I’ve been re-reading the series, starting with Book 1 a few days ago. Dobby was correctly used to escape from Malfoy Manor. 1,016 likes. But then I don't get the question. Malfoys obviously knew that the chamber has been opened by Voldemort before, 50 years ago, and that the diary will help open it again. 40 votes, 20 comments. Dobby died in Harry's arms - as an equal. That doesn't explain Dobby's words at the end of CoS. But dobby has been casting constantly to intercept harry's mail. In the book, Harry hands Lucius Malloy Tom Riddle’s destroyed diary. " They are definitely capable of some extreme magic but I think you're correct in your assessment that they are so stuck in their slavery that they just can't bring themselves to use it. This is about character dobby from harry potter series who was a free elf and will remain in Welcome to r/HarryPotter, the place where fans from around the world can meet and discuss everything in the Harry Potter universe! Be sorted, earn house points, debate which actor portrayed Dumbledore the best and finally get some closure for your Post-Potter Depression. In the interests of stupid conjecture though what if he was actually a double agent - whenever he "helps" it often goes catastrophically wrong and has terrible results for Harry. yes, ron had been there when he left harry and hermione, but that wouldn’t mean he’d be able to tell the location, right? because in OOTP mad eye shows harry dumbledore’s handwriting saying that 12 grimmauld place is the Welcome to r/HarryPotter, the place where fans from around the world can meet and discuss everything in the Harry Potter universe! Be sorted, earn house points, debate which actor portrayed Dumbledore the best and finally get some closure for your Post-Potter Depression. @AnthonyGrist Dobby was ultimately trying to help Harry (by keeping him safe from danger). How did Dobby know Harry had faced Voldemort at the end of his first year? But the do not really intend to help Voldemort return, hence the reason Lucius goes to sell some dark things at Borgin and Burke's, and puts In the HBP book, chapter 23, page 500-501, when Harry & Dumbledore were talking about the Horcrux after seeing Slughorns’ unaltered memory of him telling Voldemort about what a Horcrux was. But this didn’t happen in PoA. So, Dobby assumed Lucius put the diary out there to hurt Harry. What did Dobby tell Harry just before the second task? Dobby wakes Harry up ten minutes before the second task, tells him that he will have to rescue Ron, and gives him Gillyweed (GF26). Later on, after the Chamber had been open, Dobby tells Harry history is repeating itself. He knew his master was a Dark Wizard. This is also why he can apparate in and out of Hogwarts while wizards cannot. We know in GOF he knows Winky, so despite the unlikeliness that the Malfoy's invited Crouch over for tea, While I kind of buy the premise that Voldy counts by virtue of being in Harry, I don’t think Peter as a rat strengthens the argument. ” Lucius Malfoy stood frozen, staring at the elf. “Master threw it, and Dobby caught it, and Dobby — Dobby is free. Not to mention all the trouble that Dobby caused for Harry in COSlike yes, it was all with the best of intentions, but Harry was locked in his room and starved, got locked out of the barrier to the Hogwarts Express, and broke his arm thanks to Dobby. It seems like he would have needed a more concrete reason to do something so drastic. It's Dobby's original plan was to dissuade Harry - when this didn't work, he tried to get the muggles to ground him and therefore prevent Harry from getting on the Hogwarts train. The only thing I've changed is that dobby never interfered with harry and then anything that is a consequence of that. Regardless of Lucas' original plans, Jar Jar's annoying antics ended up serving little purpose besides trying too hard to be funny. But why Ginny? In the CoS Harry tells Ron, Fred, George, Hermione, and Hagrid about how Dobby came to the Dursley's house. But technically, he magic was performed in Harry’s home areas more than that: COS: in the movies, not sure if it’s in the books, he used lumos to read his school books at night Dobby aperating to Harry’s house Dobbys cake stint Dobby disaperating from Harry’s house POA: 5) blowing aunt marge up Welcome to r/HarryPotter, the place where fans from around the world can meet and discuss everything in the Harry Potter universe! Be sorted, earn house points, debate which actor portrayed Dumbledore the best and finally get some closure for your Post-Potter Depression. I think there's a difference between unintentional magic (blowing up Marge, regrowing hair overnight, vanishing glass at the zoo) and Re-reading CoS and I have a question. “You’ve lost me my servant, boy!” But Dobby shouted, “You shall not harm Harry Potter!” There was a loud bang, and Mr. He was aiming at Harry's head and Dobby is noticeably much shorter than a 12 yearold Harry was. I don’t think anyone really liked Dobby in CoS. L At the time of CoS it is clear enough that the Malfoys did not know that Kreacher was still alive. I love Dobby. I’ve never liked Dobby. :/ I know that authors need to keep these loopholes out of the story to create conflict, but I’m not entirely sure Rowling realized what she did when Dobby flitted in and out of Hogwarts in CoS. In Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 1, we see Bellatrix throw a dagger after Dobby saved Harry and co. But Lucius likely did not know what was in the chamber, and of course he did not know the diary was a horcrux. I am sure Weasleys too talked about him often, especially Ginny who was pestering Ron for anecdotes about Harry Potter. So hastily removing Dobby actually did make sense and in fact it is likely Lucius would have done just that once they got back home if Harry didn’t save the elf. It was so mean to withhold Harry's mail and he did the hover charm that caused Harry so much pain and anguish. “HELP!” He did not know or care whether they were wizards or Muggles, friends or foes; all he cared about was that a dark stain was spreading across Dobby’s front, and that he had stretched out his thin arms to Harry with a look of supplication. In COS Harry made dobby promise not to come and try to save his life. Why didn't Harry get help from competent teachers in Chamber of Secrets? comments. Malfoy doesn't know anything about the chamber, so it wasn't discussed freely at home. ) where he is attempting to deter Harry behind Malfoy's back. Chamber of Secrets (book) How did Dobby know that the chamber really was going to be opened when he warned Potter in the hospital scene? Lucius didn't know the diary was a horcrux, so he couldnt have overheard him talking about it. Although Dobby is a free elf now, his masters used to be the Malfoy family. He couldn't tell anyone directly about it so he was doing the next best thing he could. Everything else Dobby said about Harry being a beacon of hope for house elves and other enslaved (or those thought of as lesser beings than humans) beings appears to be heartfelt and sincere, while his motive to keep Harry from school could also be that his masters do not want Harry botching their plans as well to unleash the basilisk on muggle Albus’ brother Aberforth sent Dobby to help. But I do believe that Harry maintained his kindness to the old elf, and that he died happy, Harry burying him in the same way he did Dobby. There are several occasions (going to the Dursley's to warn Harry, blocking the King's Cross wall, fixing the bludger, etc. Dobby does display some powerful magic and harry even asks him how he's able to do it and he always replies "dobby is a house elf. W. Dobby does eventually come to Harry’s aid in the 7th book and it ends up with Dobby dead. Dobby and his visits to Harry are important to the CoS plotline, but Dobby's actions seem quite inconsistent with what we learn about House Elves' enslavement. In book 6 Dobby helps Harry with his investigation into Draco Malfoy. I don’t like any of the house elves, to be honest. Between his excitement about meeting Harry, his sense of I know he hated the Malfoys, but was there a particular reason why he wanted to save Harry (by trying to keep him from going to Hogwarts)? Before Why does Dobby - who, as we know from The Rogue Bludger, is perfectly willing to attempt to maim Harry - try to steal Harry's letters when he could just smash his legs or steal his As the title says my idea is what if dobby never “helped” Harry in COS. As per the sixth book, Lucius didn't know the diary was a horcrux, but he did know it would open the Chamber of Secrets: "Of course, Lucius did not know what the diary really was. Maybe Dobby knew the CoS being opened would be temporary. In CoS Dobby does his best to "help" Harry but fails because he ends up hurting him time and time again. Harry believes in some way that he is responsible for Dobby. This did not happen when the letters were interrupted - so it either didn't happen at the Dursley's home, or if it did, it was too unlike any wizard spells for the Trace to detect it. Really Lucius was shooting in the dark. More to the point, however, is that Dobby serves as a loyal and steadfast ally and helper to Harry throughout the series despite having no obligation to do so. So Dobby in COS first tells Harry that terrible things will happen at Hogwarts, but won't tell Harry what it is. I understand that Voldemort had told him the diary would cause the Chamber of Secrets to reopen because it was cleverly enchanted. “Dobby must do it, for Harry Potter’s own Dobby not only enraged him but also could potentially testify against him regarding his plot with the diary (remember Dumbledore also scared him mere moments ago by hinting he knows). Related Harry Potter Harry Potter (book series) Young adult literature Reading In CoS, the moment the hover charm was cast, he got a letter about the use of magic. Both in Goblet and in Order, there is mention of Dobby making all the bones in Harry’s hand disappear - but the only time I remember that happening is when Gilderoy Lockhart tried fixing a broken arm in Chamber. I love the idea of muggle burial for House Elves. But bad things don’t happen until later when Lucius Malfoy gives Ginny Tom Riddle’s diary and Ginny gets possessed. At the end of CoS we see Dobby by Malfoy's side in About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright Welcome to r/HarryPotter, the place where fans from around the world can meet and discuss everything in the Harry Potter universe! Be sorted, earn house points, debate which actor portrayed Dumbledore the best and finally get some closure for your Post-Potter Depression. Then he lunged at Harry. Harry is a Indeed, my mistake. He heard them plotting and assumed the worst. fnpmf rvbvk nzpoydh opuliw vfwzct qtyqy lbxmhqy sip ymejt bruu